| #1 WarLeaderJustin[95604] |
| adsl-64-171-79-221.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net |
| First with style. |
#2  [95605] |
| cb790950-b.elmhst1.il.home.com |
Hmm, I have no idea why I posted this here, but the reports section seemed kinda dead. So... uhhh... enjoy... :)
Dref |
| #3 WarLeaderJustin[95606] |
| adsl-64-171-79-221.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net |
| Doh, there goes any comments on my newly released report. It won't get twenty by the end of this week... |
| #4 Dino Din[95607] |
| port-cvx1-2.access.one.net |
| Ha! Single Digit! I'm sooooooooo... pathetic |
| #5 WarLeaderJustin[95608] |
| adsl-64-171-79-221.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net |
| more religious stuff.. yipee... |
#6  [95609] |
| user63.net128.va.sprint-hsd.net |
omfg beautiful dref haha ;)
you presented the argument in a perfect metaphor hehe
of course, i have no clue whatsoever how to rate this... so ill get back to ye |
| #7 Dino Din[95610] |
| port-cvx1-2.access.one.net |
Dref didn't write it.....
Ehh... well his point seems to be satirizing the real evolution/creation debate... but which side is he on? That's kinda unclear. |
| #8 mattkid[95611] |
| 00-60-97-d5-1d-d0.bconnected.net |
| fast responses \= |
| #9 [95612] |
| cb790950-b.elmhst1.il.home.com |
Dino? I wrote it.
It was fun to write, and if you can't figure out the sides, see how many times the word "blind" shows up... ;)
Cheerio,
Dref |
| #10 derek[95613] |
| ACA9F21A.ipt.aol.com |
| knave |
| #11 LuckyNewbie:P[95615] |
| user-33qtomu.dialup.mindspring.com |
| Yay... 11th on this... Battlereport? |
| #12 LuckyNewbie:P[95617] |
| user-33qtomu.dialup.mindspring.com |
We need something like a scopes-monkey trial in here, it could get violent, i dunno. GJ dref, funny comparison.
"Finally, let's talk about the copyright date on the Starcraft CD. I've had many Patcholutionists throw this evidence at me as a desparate last resort when I had disproven all of their other arguments. They say, "Tim, for God's sake look at the CD man. It says right on the cover 'copyright 1997'!!" "
:]
one question tho:
"7:97 PM"
whats this? 100 minutes in an hour? metric time? god have mercy on us |
| #13 Dino Din[95618] |
| port-cvx1-2.access.one.net |
| ah indeed master... I have seen the light now. I humbly thank you. Oh ya and #12... This observer has stumbled upon something. Arggggh, I so desired to nitpick for myself. |
| #14 LuckyNewbie:P[95619] |
| user-33qtomu.dialup.mindspring.com |
| 'Please take time to prayerfully consider what I've posted here today.' |
| #15 Equalisatium[95620] |
| ip124.arcnxx2.adsl.tele.dk |
How dare you infidel. God has the power of shaping time at his will, and if it is so 97 minutes in an hour does not seem illogical.
Begone Patcholutionist. |
| #16 [95621] |
| spider-wl031.proxy.aol.com |
My Blizzard, he is right. I greatly fear that Satan has gain control over my mind, for I seem to have vauge memories of a Starcraft that has no replays!!!
I must read my Torahcraft and banish the demons from my head back into the fiery pits from which they came!!!! Also, I will begin to fast until my memory is purged. |
#17  [95622] |
| c1413963-a.bremtn1.wa.home.com |
Dref, you always seem to be there when I least expect it. This was absoulutely hilarious. I love it. <i>PATCHOLUTIONIST</I> lmao
Of course, I might be able deduce what side you were on if I weren't so visually challenged<i>!!!</i>
Torahcraft, spider.proxy.aol.com =)
(7:97pm very nice)
-Dr.Z
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| #18 Sudo Nym[95623] |
| spider-wl031.proxy.aol.com |
Damn, that was my post above (16)
And 16th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
17!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| #19 [95624] |
| c1413963-a.bremtn1.wa.home.com |
Well, I obviously missed the "html tags disabled in the comments section" memo.
I should pay more attention. |
| #20 this is a test[95625] |
| dhcp078048.res-hall.nwu.edu |
| can you see this??? why is my ip rebelling??? |
| #21 [SM]Strega~F[95627] |
| proxy1.senet.com.au |
Be gone evil Christian! StarCraft does not want you! Did you not receive the memo? Paganism is the way, not Christianity, foolish child.
Strega |
| #22 Breeze[95628] |
| 62.176.93.129 |
| Haha man you are so full of ideas, that was great... cheered me up, now I can continue working on my own report, thanks :] |
| #23 Sere[95629] |
| reverse132.interconti.com.ar |
| Oh wow that was funny as heck, permission to pass that on to my B.S. friends? |
| #24 funnymarx[95630] |
| dhcp078048.res-hall.nwu.edu |
Dear Timmy,
I suggest that you look for an alternative explanation for starcraft that will not alienate those who don’t believe in the Toarahcraft. Scientific Blizzardism is a new paradigm, based on recent advances in programming technology. Until recently, scientist and adolescents were unable to "peek behind the curtain" as it were to see the actual code that causes the phenomenon we experience as starcraft. However, with modern programming techniques, are unlocking the secrets of starcraft by producing "hacks", synthetic additions to starcraft. In looking at the actual code for starcraft, one sees patterns of such intricacy that they couldn't have formed on their own, through any amount of trial and error. Even though programmers claim that their "hacks" constitute the same time of random chance that Pathcololutionists suggest, in fact, there is no way that the code for, say "Pong" could by a series of minute coding changes be turned into starcraft.
--funnymarx
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| #25 Ling-erie[95632] |
| igw-se.astra.com |
Very cleverly written and fairly amusing. Think it's more of a forum thing, but i guess it wouldn't get fully read there.
Don't rate this. |
| #26 triped[95643] |
| cf2.utc.com |
Haha another awesome Drefsab piece of work. Good job.
I think this should get a 10, because Drefsab pretty much perfectly acheived what he was trying to do, namely, amuse, entertain, and write well. |
| #27 Ling-erie[95646] |
| igw-se.astra.com |
are you serious????
a 10???
It's not a report, as an amusing peice of writing then yes it's very well written with HTML and so on, but it's still not up to the sort of time and effort people like YRM and Casper and whoever made that otheer 10 report the other day put in.
I think that it shouldn't be rated as it's not comparrable to any other report written, thus it's not applicable to the rating system.
Good read though |
| #28 [95648] |
| 208.196.35.15 |
Ling, its fan-fic fool... and it definitely deserves a 10. If no other rater thinks so, than I'll rate it myself... :P :P :P
Everyone else, thanks for the funny comments. Especially #16.
Cheerio,
Dref |
| #29 CKane[95654] |
| c209662-a.haywd2.sfba.home.com |
| This was... amusing, yes, and thought-provoking, yeah, but I'd hate to think what this would do to the egos of athiest starcraft nerds. :o |
| #30 luae42[95656] |
| 64-60-21-42-cust.telepacific.net |
| Blasphemer! |
| #31 Twip[95660] |
| port-113.gall-ts2.cloh.net |
CKane: it depends if they're too stupid to see what anyone constantly using the term "blind faith" really means.
:P |
| #32 SCV~007[95663] |
| h225n1fls33o984.telia.com |
| No way that's worth a 10. |
#33  [95665] |
| barry-asy-51.rutgers.edu |
| sucked blue whales relatives |
| #34 LockEmDown[95667] |
| ool-18bfa73f.dyn.optonline.net |
As frustrated as I am, for not getting the low gold on my not-so-great report, i'd say this was pretty amusing...
-=LED=- |
| #35 Eradicate~Me[95668] |
| pa-millscreek2a-240.buf.adelphia.net |
| haha definetly a 10, whats ling know? This is a 10 go rate it dref gogogo |
| #36 CKane[95669] |
| c209662-a.haywd2.sfba.home.com |
#31, I think blind faith is really dumb.
To the rest, I agree that Drefsab should get a 10. He has demonstrated highly competent copy-pasting skills and an eerily good ability to hit the "submit" button. :/ |
| #37 [95674] |
| cb790950-b.elmhst1.il.home.com |
CKane... no copy and pasting here. This post is completely original. Though it does spoof a lot of creationist arguments that I have seen around the web.
Dref |
| #38 triped[95676] |
| cf2.utc.com |
| Hard work and energy invested in a report do not guarantee a 10, Ling. I'm sure there's been more than a few reports on this site that people worked on for hours that sucked. O well, I am not a rater, so don't worry. |
#39  [95679] |
| on-tor-blr-a58-02-371.look.ca |
| sorry dref, no 10 from me, i hate fanfics...... actually i just wont rate it :) |
| #40 Vaevictis666[95681] |
| h24-69-4-3.gv.shawcable.net |
Nice dref...
Favorite part:
Take, for example, the fact that the theory of Patcholutionism directly conflicts with the 2nd law of thermodynamics. This law states that any closed system will deteriorate and decay over time. This is a scientific law. How then is it logical for a Patcholutionist to claim that, instead of decaying, the game of Starcraft has improved greatly since the Alpha era?
Response: From the patcholutionist's point of view, it's not a closed system, as many patches were added to the system as time goes on. Thus one does not have a fully closed system, so it is allows to improve without violation the 2nd law.
- V |
| #41 the()vermind[95684] |
| AC887C07.ipt.aol.com |
| I've been converted! Must put money in church donation boxes... Plainly speaking too funny. 10, at least. I'm going to retreat into my whole and evade dref's wrath now. |
| #42 angel[95686] |
| h0020e0640dea.ne.mediaone.net |
it was almost funny...
-angel |
| #43 iggyson[95687] |
| adsl-64-167-13-108.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net |
| NO PICS = 1 |
| #44 Siberian Kiss[95689] |
| 204.32.69.68 |
"Blind" is the nice way of saying it. =) Very amusing and well written. I know I'd like to see another installment or two (or however many you should choose to write). Keep 'em coming.
-SK
P.S. Great site, Dref. |
| #45 CKane[95691] |
| c209662-a.haywd2.sfba.home.com |
You made it sound like you copy-pasted.
Or maybe I need to read more closely.
:( |
| #46 Patton1944[95693] |
| spider-tf032.proxy.aol.com |
Creationism is not dead. As dref said, god made it 19:97, which is 7:97. And yes, it's 7:97. If god wants to make it 7:97, then he damn well can.
Patcholution can not possibly be real. If StarCraft has it's own mind, it's own intellegence, then someone would have to GIVE it that ability to think independantly.
These "patches" are simple hoxes. I too downloaded the 1.08 "Patch". It worked in single player, but multi-player would not accept it. That is why "patches" are another one of satan's hellspawn. He wants you to have no communication with the outside worlds, thus plunging your life into darkness.
So you see, creationism is very plausible.
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| #47 Patton1944[95694] |
| spider-tf032.proxy.aol.com |
Another thing...the word "Protoss" comes from the latin word "Prottos", which means first created. That is why the protoss are the strongest of races. God created them first, and they have the power of intellegence. This is why some "Programmer" could not make the protoss. The protoss are the result of a higher intellegence. I think this shoots down whatever arguments the "Patcholutionists" had lofting around.
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| #48 Scarab[95697] |
| ACA9E3E1.ipt.aol.com |
| god kane, you are so fucking stupid, its unbeleivable |
| #49 livingexception[95700] |
| spider-mtc-tb061.proxy.aol.com |
Gee Dref, I don't detect a single ounce of sarcasm in this entire article! I truel believe that you have taken this Creationalism thing whole heartidly..........................................................................................................
I REALLY don't wanna get caught in another arguement over either evolution or religion. I'll just say I'm a Christian and I believe in evolution. If you REALLY wanna argue with me about it, my AIM is ExceptionToDRule. |
| #50 ~13~Shadow D'Arc[95710] |
| spider-wk034.proxy.aol.com |
Actually, exception, the sarcasm IS there, it's just... hiding. "Blind" can mean a lot, depending on what side he's on.
If he's Creationist-Everyone who doesn't believe the same way is just too blind to see the truth.
Patholutionist-All the creationists are too blind to see the fact that Starcraft has been around forever, and has just built upon itself over time through the work of the agents of whatever higher power convinced them to make this great game.
Peace,
Shadow D'Arc |
| #51 Markster[95711] |
| 66-65-24-37.nyc.rr.com |
Heh, even though it bashes everything I stand for regarding Creation and the Bible, I enjoyed it. I can recognize and acknowledge a good piece of writing when I see it. *nods at Dref*
What would have made it an even better fic, though, is if real-life Creationist arguments were that stupid and easy to discount... Too bad, huh? ;) |
| #52 [95713] |
| cb790950-b.elmhst1.il.home.com |
haha Markster, I went to a Christian high school and I still remember the "20 arguments that disprove evolution" handout that my teacher gave me.
The ones that really stuck out in my mind were the 2nd law of thermodynamics, the population of the world should be in the quadrillions, the sun should have swallowed up the earth because it is expanding, and the moon should be two miles deep in dust.
I look back on that and I find it hard to believe how naieve I was and also how ridiculous it was for a high school to be teaching that kind of garbage as truth and then have the gall to complain about teaching evolution in public schools... :( |
| #53 triped[95728] |
| cf2.utc.com |
| I just graduated from a Christian high school, and most of those arguments are bullshit, with the exception of entropy. |
| #54 Vince[95730] |
| una200.alcatel.fr |
| Hehehe, it feels good to be born in a country where education is independent from the church ! |
| #55 .High+Templar.[95744] |
| machine-66-141.bergen.org |
OMG this owned :D
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| #56 TheNoblelisk[95750] |
| spider-tr041.proxy.aol.com |
He who does not stand up for his god, does not walk with his god.
I think a kidding way of atheism is stupid, and dref u should know better than anybody... |
| #57 [95757] |
| 137.187.49.135 |
It's funny, Drefsab, but I'm sure you realize that I will now have to comment on your analogy... :b
The parallelism breaks down when "Tim" calls the patches "random mutations." The most basic (and strongest) Creationist argument criticizes the random nature of evolution, not the amount of time it needs, and the patches are obviously products of intelligent design, carefully modeled to improve game balance. There's nothing random about them (well, ok... maybe the original larval spawn rate and the 1.05-1.07 D-Web were random aberrations). We can see evidence of similar, and much more complex, design in the real world, and standard theories of evolution that try to explain all this order as the result of chance processes over long oceans of time don't account for this complex harmony. I could easily turn your joke around by writing from the perspective a "Patcholutionist" who thinks it absurd that certain Creationists insist on intelligent design behind the patches.
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| #58 Prester John[95758] |
| 137.187.49.135 |
| Man, that 1000-character limit is rough... |
| #59 [95760] |
| barry-asy-17.rutgers.edu |
| actually dref, is hell exothermic or endothermic ? |
| #60 livingexception[95761] |
| spider-mtc-tb044.proxy.aol.com |
| lol Damn funny badtz, |
| #61 Shadow D'Arc[95786] |
| spider-wb052.proxy.aol.com |
Whoever it is that wrote #57(I think Prester John, but dunno), Go for it on the "patcholutionists" PoView. Make an interesting debate.
Peace,
Shadow D'Arc |
| #62 Shadow D'Arc[95788] |
| spider-wb052.proxy.aol.com |
Dref, BTW, you have a copy of that "20 facts that disprove evolution"? I'm curious what kind of excuses they use.
Peace,
Shadow D'Arc |
| #63 [95790] |
| cb790950-b.elmhst1.il.home.com |
| I sure don't, that was my sophomore year of high school... long gone now... :( I'll check the net |
| #64 Cancerpatient[95791] |
| spider-th072.proxy.aol.com |
now i finally know im not alone
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| #65 [95792] |
| cb790950-b.elmhst1.il.home.com |
here, try this...
http://icarus.cc.uic.edu/~vuletic/cefec.html
Some highlights:
* At the present rate of influx of meteoritic dust from space, the earth and moon after 5 billion years should each be covered with a meteoritic dust layer more than 180 feet thick.
* The rate of decay in the geomagnetic field sets an outside limit of 10,000 years for the age of the earth.
* Niagara Falls is moving upstream at a known rate each year. Its current location allows only about 5,000 years since the time it started eroding.
* There are many unanswered questions in science, such as the details of the origin of the universe and of prebiotic synthesis. Thus we require a supernatural God for explanation.
* Evolution and creationism are the only two possible models of origins. There are many serious problems with evolution, so creationism is the correct model by default.
They make some good points (1 or 2) but there is just too much crap like this mixed in.
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| #66 [95793] |
| cb790950-b.elmhst1.il.home.com |
| Heh, actually, these are creationist arguments that include links to refutations. Most of the points I remember from my Christian biology class are in this list. |
| #67 [95810] |
| on-tor-blr-a58-04-9.look.ca |
| bah still no rating, i guess i will |
| #68 Zumbooruk[95820] |
| AKCF1.xtra.co.nz |
| Drefsab you rule. |
| #69 BOBBY357[95824] |
| spider-wo072.proxy.aol.com |
| dref 4 prez |
| #70 Spuzz[95833] |
| 63.175.166.59 |
Heh, thanks for the...interesting read :)
Spuzz |
| #71 [SM]Strega~F[95845] |
| proxy2.senet.com.au |
Well, I'm gonna be graduating from a Christian high school this year. I, too, have received the absolute bullshit reasons why "God Must Exist." I think it's funny that Physics can (and has) disproven these reasons. The only real thing left that Christians can hang on to is the fact that the origin of the universe cannot be proven, although all intelligent thought deducts that the universe began many trillions of years ago in what is now referred to as "The Big Bang." I am just happy that I will soon be studying the Big Bang and it's various components in university in less than 6-7 months.
LONG LIVE PHYSICS!
Strega |
| #72 Agent_of_Sol[95857] |
| nav-34d.dsl.navpoint.com |
| The parody is funny, but the last line is totall unneccessary and (IMO) offensive. |
| #73 Agent_of_Sol[95858] |
| nav-34d.dsl.navpoint.com |
To provide an interesting twist.....
I've decided that most Preachers and most Science teachers are all idots. Evolution doesn't exist? Preposterous. But the question of that first organism is totally wide open. Intelligent design then? Whatever.
What is IMPORTANT?
George Fox once remarked that the Truth is more important than the Book. I think that so long as someone realy searches for truth with an open mind, God will help them find it. |
| #74 [95871] |
| cb790950-b.elmhst1.il.home.com |
| What was offensive about the last line that made it offensive in relation to the rest of the parody? |
| #75 Agent_of_Sol[95885] |
| nav-34d.dsl.navpoint.com |
The rest of the parody was cleverly ambiguous. Christians may be the loudest proponants of creationism, but all the relevent texts are OT and not exclusively Christian. The last line made what had been open unneccessarily pointed at a single group (IMO).
I really do like the story over all though. |
| #76 CaughtNaked[95901] |
| spider-wf073.proxy.aol.com |
hmmmm, i seem to vaguely remember when the 4 pool was a vaild strat...
*bangs head on wall*
"DEVIL BE GONE!!"
much better.
Now, where can I get this 'Torahcraft' and is it a long read?
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| #77 Shadow D'Arc[95943] |
| spider-tj081.proxy.aol.com |
Just read through that stuff... the Evolutionists made a LOT better arguments refuting the points that the Creations made to begin with. "One or the other, nothing else works"...MWAHAHAHAHAHA, thats funny, 'scuse me.
Peace,
Shadow D'Arc |
| #78 iggyson[95946] |
| adsl-64-160-26-214.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net |
FIRST
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| #79 TerrenMahem[95952] |
| dialup-64.157.116.11.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net |
| Three words for ya: get a life. |
| #80 Jex[95958] |
| 254.bng0103.bng.iprimus.net.au |
That was very well written, but not funny. It was a lame ass attempt at humor. What's all this bullshit about it being ammusing? It sounds as if someone has got too much time on there hands...
And how has Physics disproven God? (Strega??) |
| #81 BADKITTY![95965] |
| ss06.ny.us.ibm.com |
I dont think physics CAN disprove god.
IMHO Anyone who believes in evolution (solely) is a moron, and anyone who believes in a specific god (solely) is a moron.
The big bang _THEORY_ (not proven) explains, somewhat, the makeup of the universe as it exists. It doesn't fail to explain the creation of the universe because it is not an attempt to explain it. The theory says that what was wonce small is now bigger... where the small thing came from is not something anyone's trying to explain. Just as where god came from is not something that can be explained.
Neither theory can fully explain the universe, and where it came from.
If someone ever tells you where everything came from, answer "yes, but where did THAT come from?"
As far as the report, it's really funny, but it's something i'd expect in a FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD email, not on br.com :) |
| #82 BADKITTY![95966] |
| ss06.ny.us.ibm.com |
| I invented my own new word: wonce... go me! |
| #83 BADKITTY![95967] |
| ss06.ny.us.ibm.com |
| hrm, the confusion as to weather or not drefsab wrote it (of course there is none now, he told us he did write it) was caused by the presentation of it by drefsab as having been written by Tim.... not realizing that tim==Drefsab is why CKAIN(#45) is not a complete moron(#48), but someone who made a simple mistake. |
| #84 Supercod[95982] |
| 63-224-58-30.customers.uswest.net |
| WTF:) |
| #85 Prester John[96069] |
| 137.187.49.135 |
Dref:
#57 was mine... somehow the name got left off.
Strega:
If physics can disprove these "reasons for the existence of God" you say you got at school, they must be uncommonly weak reasons. Either that or you aren't evaluating them farily.
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| #86 M2g2F8[96330] |
| AC81C3E7.ipt.aol.com |
| Now, if only this great God of ours would give us Fastforward / Rewind options and save the dialogue in replays... and make it impossible to hack, and kill all the newbies. Maybe a few more races would be nice too. How about a better battle.net? Maybe one that doesn't split? O I know! When I alt+tab, can the colors stay the same in the chatrooms? I will go pray now for these things that I selfishly desire. |
| #87 binjured[96332] |
| cvg-27-161-224.cinci.rr.com |
"If Starcraft was really 6 years old, even if Battle.net only had 10 users at its start (which is a generous assumption), at a 20% growth rate every two weeks, the Battle.net population would now be in the tens of billions which is more than the population of the entire world!!! Unless you believe in aliens playing Starcraft, its obvious to see that this is a serious flaw in the Patcholutionist theory."
-----
"copyright 1997 that it means the year 1997, but if you look closely at the number, you can just barely see the colon between 19 and 97. That copyright actually denotes the time of day that the CDs were created. 19:97 is military time for 7:97 PM"
/me falls outa chair laughing my god damn ass off LMFAO!!!!
this is true greatness dref... need a good laugh now and again
although it was hilarious, my athiest view still stand ;)
peace |
| #88 meth[96782] |
| static24-72-29-127.reverse.accesscomm.ca |
| if god existed hed prove it..dont give me this jesus bullshit cuz hes dead. if he even existed. |
| #89 great person [77862][96907] |
| 209-130-140-83.nas2.MON.gblx.net |
| DONT EVER COMBINE THE CHURCH AND STARCRAFT AGAIN YOU FUCKER!!! |
| #90 RubiksCube[97300] |
| platz17.pags.de |
| OMG OWNAGE FICTION! ;) |
| #91 Oogie121[97813] |
| user-24-214-119-12.knology.net |
Wow, I was going to reply to one of the "evolution is wrong" Creationist posts here, but I'd rather cover one that makes several "pop science" mistakes. BTW, I liked the original article, a pretty good parody, but as one person pointed out, actually had the flaw that the game really is designed. The general flow of it works, however, if one only takes it as a joke
"I dont think physics CAN disprove god."
Ok, I'll cut some slack here, as I'd definitely agree that can't. "God" is usually defined in such a way that it can't be disproven.
"IMHO Anyone who believes in evolution (solely) is a moron,"
Wow, the gall to call the majority of top biologists "morons."
"and anyone who believes in a specific god (solely) is a moron."
Even here, I won't go so far as to call them a moron, they could just be extremely ignorant (eg, a tribesman living in Africa who has never even heard of evolution).
CONTINUED |
| #92 Oogie121[97814] |
| user-24-214-119-12.knology.net |
"The big bang _THEORY_ (not proven) explains..."
Ah, just after calling people who I'm guessing a smarter than you, "morons," you make a 5th grade science mistake. Notice how he stresses the word "theory," and then makes the comment that this equates to "not proven." Obviously he does not know the difference between a theory as we use the term in daily language and scientific theory.
"...somewhat, the makeup of the universe as it exists. It doesn't fail to explain the creation of the universe because it is not an attempt to explain it. The theory says that what was wonce small is now bigger... where the small thing came from is not something anyone's trying to explain."
Not really going to attack this, but the BBT DOES address the start of the Universe. Calling it the "creation" of the Universe is a bit misleading, and the BBT does not.
CONTINUED |
| #93 Oogie121[97815] |
| user-24-214-119-12.knology.net |
"Just as where god came from is not something that can be explained.
Neither theory can fully explain the universe, and where it came from."
Another example of this person not knowing what a "theory" is. Since he is comparing them on equal ground. either he is calling the BBT a non-scientific theory, which it obviously is not, or he's calling "God made it" a scientific theory. However, there is NO such theory. No one has ever proposed one, and no one probably ever will. Also, the BBT makes no attempt at "fully [explaining] the Universe."
I hope at least one person will learn what the word "theory" means after reading my post :) |
| #94 |]agomar[98272] |
| StCatherines-ppp109154.sympatico.ca |
Thanks for being both perfectly insulting and sacriligious.
Although this was friggin' funny, it was a little too extreme against Christianity, a faith of which I'm a member. |
| #95 |]agomar[98273] |
| StCatherines-ppp109154.sympatico.ca |
BTW Blind Faith . . . is there any faith but blind faith? A gay atheist term.
Oh and I do believe in evolution . . . just that God started the whole thing. |
| #96 TheDarkProphet[101490] |
| 1Cust75.tnt1.elizabethtown.ky.da.uu.net |
Basically #81's both are wrong issue is telling you this subliminal message: "Become a nihilist!"
Argh, good thing my subliminal message dampener is on, or else I'd go spouting off on how evryone is wrong, even me.... |
| #97 TheDarkProphet[101491] |
| 1Cust75.tnt1.elizabethtown.ky.da.uu.net |
| Another thing, why is it that if you don't believe in God you are auto-atheist? If every religion had a "other side" label, taht would be rediculous. Pagans don't go around saying "I'm a Atheist-Pagan and my friend here is Christian-Mucreist (my new word for not-pagan). In conclusion I must say: Humans are foolish, don't believe them at all. You can't be sure of anything, not even of yourself. |
| #98 Kambric[106991] |
| proxy1-external.elcjn1.sdca.home.com |
| Oogie if you ever read this post let me tell you something. Scientific Theory, as great of a thing that it may be, is not the end all. Spontaneous generation was once a scientific theory, and yet that was disproven. It was also once a theory that atoms were only made up of protons and electrons, and that's kinda out the door now too. The same goes for the Big Bang Theory. It may be the right answer, it may not, but just because the words "scientific" and "theory" are attached to it does not make it "truth." |
| #99 TelferProject[106997] |
| sdn-ar-003kylouiP291.dialsprint.net |
Wow, I posted on here before? I just wantd to say....
I'M NUMBER 100 BABY! |
| #100 EMS[108664] |
| nabrown.vassar.edu |
"Take, for example, the fact that the theory of Patcholutionism directly conflicts with the 2nd law of thermodynamics. This law states that any closed system will deteriorate and decay over time. This is a scientific law. How then is it logical for a Patcholutionist to claim that, instead of decaying, the game of Starcraft has improved greatly since the Alpha era? "
The problem with this argument is that the second law of thermo-dynamics was shown to be innacurate by Ludwig Boltzmann,
Every micro-state is equally probable, just the deterioration macro-state includes many more micro-states!
EMS |
| #101 You dont know me.[115359] |
| 2Cust217.tnt2.minneapolis3.mn.da.uu.net |
Two quick things.
No matter how much time you give it.. a scv will never just go over and start building a barracks. Give it a few billion years and WALA!! It will still be in the exact same spot.
Secondly, the big bang theory that some individuals claim so closely too.. just one quick observation. Where did that bang come from? A bunch of gas? Something had to exist before the bang, and what existed before that?
Either you believe in an everlasting "unknown, undefined, unseen" substance or you believe in an everlasting God.
You evolutionists/BBTists have alot more "FAITH" than me ..a lowly christain. |
| #102 Complete ASSHOLE[124696] |
| spider-loh-tb031.proxy.aol.com |
| hmmm what should i write here?? |
| #103 el_sux0r[133573] |
| bay4-12.dial.umd.edu |
I've thought about both sides of the argument prompted by this.
In the end, tho, dref was just newbiebashing. It isn't exactly hard to mock religion on the Internet :P
So, when are you posting the Torahcraft? |
| #104 wakiki[154030] |
| cable-24-158-230-168.mtv.al.charter.com |
| Heh, pretty nice satire. |
| #105 Desert Demon[155855] |
| dell-0qgbz.uncg.edu |
| BELIEVE IN NOTHING! |
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