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#1 maareek[149785]
mblt-ad085.gtcom.net
Apologies abound...but this should show up correctly. If it doesn't...oh well.
#2 maareek[149786]
mblt-ad085.gtcom.net
As bad as double posts suck, triple posts suck worse...I wish I could get fileread to work (I'm sure it's just my stupidity, all I get are "file not found" errors).
#3 [149789]
129.142.195.30.ip.tele2adsl.dk
:p

It's not particularly hard, actually. Off to read now.

#4 OverTheUnder[149790]
12-205-134-226.client.mchsi.com
<3 the alt text this game almost makes up for the gozu ZvT game;) hehehehe...heh...yep................... 8:D
#5 maareek[149791]
mblt-ad085.gtcom.net
I honestly think I screw up the path name, I think I should be qualified as functionally internet illiterate. That, or fileread just doesn't like me...
#6 maareek[149792]
mblt-ad085.gtcom.net
lol, never ever ever speak of that game again ;). I will pretend that I never played that game and someone hacked my account if ever confronted with it. Although this one wasn't that much better.

Thanks for..um...bringing up bad memories :p.

#7 Dibbler[149793]
213-84-180-234.adsl.xs4all.nl
Woohoo, got mentioned in a battlereport. Tnx Maareek: I owe you no *small* favor.
#8 maareek[149794]
mblt-ac058.gtcom.net
hehe, and thanks for the e-mail dibb. Should give me plenty of alt-text material.
#9 [149796]
129.142.195.30.ip.tele2adsl.dk
Finally got to read it.

Solid report, so-so game, but overall a good impression - alt-text was nice as, now you've fixed it ^^

All in all, a high 7



#10 maareek[149797]
mblt-ac058.gtcom.net
Yeah, the game wasn't that good, but if I didn't do a report soon I was gonna go crazy. So, I couldn't be that picky.

I viewed a little source...figured out the alt-text thing, hopefully won't piss Johnny off too bad :).

#11 striz[149800]
CPE0007e95ea1fa-CM013050003852.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
great job, I enjoyed it at least
#12 .Praetor[149801]
c-67-172-163-213.client.comcast.net
Hey, I enjoyed that a lot. And the alt-text was good :). I'm still going to question your use of golaiths against Zerg. I actually find them to be ok against zerglings and bad against hydras.

They just seem to match hydras one for one while costing more. Though they do keep an enemy from going air, I suppose. Anyhoo, good like I said. I'll probably rate it sooner or later :).

I dunno how TvZ is your worst matchup though. I can never seem to survive as Zerg against Terran. They just run you over with medics and marines, gg.



#13 .Praetor[149802]
c-67-172-163-213.client.comcast.net
Oh, one question if you watched the replay. I dunno why, but I got the sense that the Zerg didn't have enough hatcheries, which caused him to not have enough drones. Just seems like if I was in the Zerg position, not being able to get enough troops, that is often what happens to me.
#14 wakiki[149804]
cable-68-184-58-251.mtv.al.charter.com
The pictures didn't show up in Explorer, but they do in Mozilla :)

Good report.

One thing that bothers me(you aren't the only one that does this) is when someone gives 3 big paragraphs of battles, then gives a large chain of pictures. What I have to do then if scroll back up, check the pictures, find out where they fit in the paragraphs, etc. etc. Like I said, this happens in most reports though(and I only noticed it once in yours) so I just picked this one to ramble about it :)

Overall it was enjoyable, and somewhat unusual(the map - which I like. and the goliaths)





#15 maareek[149805]
mblt-aa016.gtcom.net
Well, .Praetor first off about tvz being my worst matchup...I never get practice at it. Going random always leaves a hole somewhere and that's mine, in the 4 months I've been playing I've probably played less than a dozen tvz's. ZvT is one of my worst as well however, since I seem to have the same problem as you ;).

As far as the goliaths, I think zerglings are a problem if they're able to get to your gols. Like if the hydras engage then the lings move in they can tear your goliaths up quickly. I think the reason I was able to hold up so well against the hydras may be I never got lapsed in upgrades. When his were 1-0 so were mine, when they were 2-0 mine were 2-1 then 2-2 shortly thereafter so he got very little increase on damage, whereas I always had an advantage in damage after the initial drop. Plus the fact that when I engaged his forces I normally had a few marines, with the exception of the pincer attack in his natural, where my 6 goliaths killed 4 of his 9 hydras.

#16 maareek[149806]
mblt-aa016.gtcom.net
Plus, I had just read Breeze's mistakes, mistakes report and that was probably a big reason I didn't go ahead and go m&m in this game.

Hmmm...Zerg had 3 hatches at main and one at his expo, that was enough. I think his biggest problem was my first drop on his main. Where I cleared out every last one of his drones there, not one got away. It wasn't long after that my troops started occupying his natural which kept him from being able to mass drones at his main. I do believe he massed them at his natural though, since no forces ever came from there. I think my pressure on him was the reason he didn't get enough drones, he had mineral problems all game.

Wakiki, all I can say about the pics, and it's said with <3, is deal with it :p. Jk, I'll try to remember that in my next one ;).

Thanks for the comments.





#17 [149807]
129.142.195.30.ip.tele2adsl.dk
Goliaths are just bad against zerg, full stop.

Sure they can beat up mutalisk, but m&m does an excellent job at that too. I rarely play terran, especially in 1v1's, but when I do get the chance to play TvZ, I basically pressure him from the get-go with marines/scvs and later medics. Stop him from pumping drones and force him to make zerglings, often you'll be able to overpower him.
#18 CHN_ProXy[cF][149808]
sdn-ap-020tnnashP0338.dialsprint.net
Well Praetor, there's a unit called the lurker, in which about 12 of them could kill waves of rines for a lifetime ;]

Goliaths just are plain horrible vs Z IMHO. If the Z was of higher skill, just the fact that you went Goliath would had made you lose. Why do you go marine/medic vs Zerg? Because zerg throw weak damage attacks at you at a high pace(besides lurks/guards). Medics compensate for the damage incredibly well. That's the only reason rines live. Goliaths will get torn down by muta/ling, they fire at the muta, and without the heal or mobility(stim) rines get, the goliath get torn down. He made a mistake using lurkers against metal, and from what i understand, it didn't seem like he was good with Z

Overall, nice report
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#19 maareek[149809]
mblt-aa077.gtcom.net
The reason i used goliaths is because it was random vs random on a 6 player map. I found him in the last place I looked and he hadn't seen me by that time. Which meant there was no rush going on, and when I found him he was already expanding, the hatch was finished actually. Which meant he was teching.

I got to his main and he had no, none, nada attack units and a finsihed lair with den. Gols and comsat > lurkers. Gols with rines in drops are better than zerg forces. Gol vs zerg is used a lot among gosus especially if its random vs random. Had it been temple or a map like that I would have done differently.

I assumed from his BO that he was lurker rushing or doom dropping, after watching the rep it shows that he was dropping. Had I gone m&m I probably would have been forced to contain him then get doom dropped. But this is all theory, and who the hell cares about theory anyway.
#20 Chris[149810]
astound-66-234-209-235.ca.astound.net
More words with the pictures.

7.5

Good work.
#21 OverTheUnder[149811]
12-205-134-226.client.mchsi.com
Ling... I have just lost all of what little respect i had for u...j/k^^ I still got a lil bit:P Anywayz GOlaiths own zerg the only reason you dont c them as much is cause its harder to tech in TvZ. If u think about it goliaths own muta harass and ling/lurker. Of course a smart Z player would get hydras.. wich is the best they can do for now or, later on, Ultras. And of course u don't jsut mass goliaths alone, you get a few tanks for support if they do get hydras u will rape em. Zerg really has little choice on what to do, this sounds weird but the best thing they can do is go hydra, muta and try to expo with the leftover minerals.
#22 OverTheUnder[149812]
12-205-134-226.client.mchsi.com
Another Great addon to this strat is to get vultures while you are building ur armory and go past the sunkens ( the only d most zerg have early if they fast expoed) and kill drones. I played a TvZ awhile ago and its was on wgtour c1. I managed to kill only 2 drones since he did happen to have about 6 lings and then he tried to muta harass and got raped. Then he attacked with muta-ling just after i took my natural and he got raped:D Then i attacked.. having the game won and stepped on top of 8 burrowed lurkers on hold.. and I got ass raped. RIght after he countered with aobut 12 lings, 8 lurkers, and 5-6 mutas and i won with some scvs, 4 goliaths and 2 tanks:D Hope this changed ur mind:P
#23 Decay[149813]
66.44.173.227
"Goliaths are just bad"
- ZerG~LinG

I liked it, although I must say you could do much better with a better game. Micro used to be good... What happened? :P

<3
~Decay
#24 maareek[149814]
mblt-ac016.gtcom.net
Does anybody else notice the irony of ling saying that gols are just bad? :p.

Thanks for the comments, too bad I'm too tired to read them right now...
#25 Netaddict.[149817]
216-86-116-139.gen.pacificcoast.net
Hmm.. well done, but no link to ~CB at the start?

Blasphemy!
#26 Dibbler[149818]
213-84-180-234.adsl.xs4all.nl
"Does anybody else notice the irony of ling saying that gols are just bad? :p."

My thoughts exactly ;)
#27 maareek[149819]
mblt-ac066.gtcom.net
Well, I couldn't link to the entire hof...just my favorites :). Plus, I couldn't think of what to put in for him, what do you say about CB?. Or Johnny for that matter, you see my predicament? So I went with easy people to say something about, since I didn't want to work too hard.
#28 Dibbler[149820]
213-84-180-234.adsl.xs4all.nl
Maareek, it's a bit over the under to check in here after each individual comment!
#29 OverTheUnder[149838]
12-205-134-226.client.mchsi.com
yea dont steal that from me... its all i got:(
#30 FlyingSquirrel[149874]
pc-24-151-22-092.newm2.ct.charter.com
Goliaths are awesome. I've held off more than 15 lings with one goliath and a few SCV's. They are very versatile and they can just rip through almost anything in large numbers.

Gols 4 life!
#31 .Praetor[149883]
dhcp52.des.ucdavis.edu
I finally gave it an 8. I didn't decide last time I visited the site. Then I came back, couldn't decide, and figured mareek's link to my reports is enough of a bribe.
#32 maareek[149886]
mblt-aa029.gtcom.net
rofl, thanks .Praetor. It was a last minute addition for that purpose exactly, it had nothing to do with your skills as a writer or influence on me at all ;). I'm just glad to see it worked.
#33 ElectronicMage[149921]
spider-dtc-tc042.proxy.aol.com
ASDF I knew my muttering's in NH would come back to haunt me.

Yet again I am immortalized in the alt-text of a very nice report.

Very good work maareek.

#34 maareek[150795]
mblt-aa079.gtcom.net
Thanks for the compliments, ElectronicMage. And for the quotes for that matter. I wouldn't say "immortalized" since I doubt lots of people will read this again but who knows.

Biggest comment whore with only 30ish comments on any report,
maar



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