| #1 .Praetor[151242] |
| c-67-172-163-127.client.comcast.net |
| Thanks to Ling, here's a good working version. Readers, be patient. It'll take the raters quite a while to get through this. |
| #2 sabotage[151243] |
| ool-44c25deb.dyn.optonline.net |
new system can be really gay :[
omg its praetor! (if ur the real one ^^) |
| #3 goldrush945[151244] |
| wc01.mtnk.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com |
| #2 on a .Praetor report? Hot damn. Well, I'm eagerly awaiting the raters to rate it so that I can read it. :) |
#4 
[151245] |
| 129.142.195.30.ip.tele2adsl.dk |
| This will have to wait for tomorrow, christ it's too much at this time of the day. |
| #5 sabotage[151246] |
| ool-44c25deb.dyn.optonline.net |
>:[ ZLING!!
# 2 and 4 btw ^^ |
| #6 Shuriken[151247] |
| ool-182e1a3b.dyn.optonline.net |
| gotta c this already |
| #7 PeaceableGhost[151248] |
| adsl-68-250-43-118.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net |
First I was thinking, "2 .Praetor reports? In one day?"
And then, "1 on a .Praetor report? What?"
And now it's just -
Hurry up and rate the report already! |
#8  [151249] |
| 67.176.104.160 |
Long ago I expected the first Civ III report to come from Drefsab. Years later, and it's a giant text by .Praetor. Quite a great game, too.
For some reason I really enjoyed this report. Quite as good as they can come without some overkill photoshopping skills. You are still the master, Prae.
Been a while since we had 10 material, but I'm sure this will get rated to a nine point something ;). Someone go get CB. |
| #9 snowyday[151251] |
| cache-gtc-aa01.proxy.aol.com |
| Excellent game. 'Nuff said. |
| #10 Desert Demon[151252] |
| user-0ce2kc2.cable.mindspring.com |
Wow. That was...awesome.
*goes and kills his friend for his copy of Civ3* |
| #11 badme[151253] |
| pcp05314423pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net |
| Cool. I read a bit, will read the rest tommorrow. |
| #12 OMG TEH BEST[151254] |
| cdm-66-76-229-175.tyrd.cox-internet.com |
| praetor you rock it |
| #13 wakiki[151255] |
| cable-24-196-25-76.mtv.al.charter.com |
| Not fair. I got 3rd on the other one at least :P |
| #14 [151256] |
| 67.176.104.160 |
| "unifed at last" hahahaha |
#15  [151257] |
| wc01.wlfdle.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com |
Exceptional writing, interesting game, and clear screenshots. Graphically this report was lacking a little - don't get me wrong, while it was clear in all respects the format and sheer quality of the graphics wasn't the best. It sounds a little ironic for me to be saying this, as a reporter who has relied on writing at the expense, sometimes, of images, but still it didn't immediately scream "10!" after I was done reading it. Nevertheless, an excellent work.
I'd say 9.4 - rating a 9. |
| #16 Some_God[151259] |
| ool-18b8c5a0.dyn.optonline.net |
| Holy shit a 10?!?!?! Anyway GJ... I will read tommorow. |
| #17 LameJoker[151261] |
| pool-68-236-155-88.alb.east.verizon.net |
| yes, immortals are very, very hax. Quite an accomplishment that they didnt steamroll you. Stuck with Persia on an archipelago map on diety, and you beat them, very gj. |
| #18 LameJoker[151262] |
| pool-129-44-10-144.alb.east.verizon.net |
| make part 2 quick plz, looking forward to it. |
| #19 goldrush945[151263] |
| wc01.mtnk.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com |
| I have Civ3, only the graphics are fucked up for some reason. So that's how its supposed to look like. :o |
| #20 PeaceableGhost[151264] |
| adsl-68-249-8-13.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net |
| Definitely 9-10 material. Very interesting game, nice writing, nice screen shots. |
| #21 Chris[151266] |
| astound-66-234-209-235.ca.astound.net |
At first, I thought it didn't have enough pictures. And at first, I thought, oh good, its another .praetor report, given a 9.5, time to congratulate, say it was good, and not actually read the thing.
But I really did read it. And I really liked it. The writing kept me interested in a game that I have never played and heard very bad things about (Want to play one full game? Kiss your weekend goodbye is what they say.) I think that's the most difficult thing for reporters to do; make people interested in reports about games they haven't played.
In any case, I had one thing bad to say about this, which is probably just a personal thing. It wasn't professional enough for me; its like I saw too much random thought in a few parts.
9.5, as is. |
| #22 choboPeon[151268] |
| ool-182faa3c.dyn.optonline.net |
| civ3 is better than starcraft. good job. |
| #23 Decay[151269] |
| 66.44.173.22 |
Wow. My first thought was, "wtf I'm not gonna sit here long enough to read this". Next thing I knew, it was a half hour, two glasses of water, a piss, and a bag of microwave popcorn later, and I was left wanting more. The writing drew me in, even though I haven't played civ3 (I played civ2 like a fanatic for a couple of years) and I seriously think it could have been 10 times longer and I would not have quit reading until I was done. Here's to hoping the next installment is posted when I wake up tomorrow. :)
~Decay |
| #24 choboPeon[151270] |
| ool-182faa3c.dyn.optonline.net |
You need civ3. To decay, and everyone who does not own it.
Play it once in a while and feel the joy. |
| #25 TwistedNecro[151271] |
| lsanca1-ar54-4-3-202-139.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net |
Wow... The writing was pure L33T hax. The screenshots didn't seem that bad to me, but then again I don't look at pictures for quality, just for the info I need and thats it.
Civ III sounds awesome, cept maybe too long for my 2-second attention span...
What? Who are you? |
| #26 Sabotage[151272] |
| ool-44c25deb.dyn.optonline.net |
what does "bad referrer" mean when im trying to log in?
Halp someone who knows |
| #27 Avail[151273] |
| c-65-97-24-49.va.client2.attbi.com |
The original Civ was a fucking classic. I used to play it in elementary school. The wonders of 2d graphics and horribly pixelated unit drawings!
But I digress, excellent writing! Very detailed and what-not. Though I must admit, all that text gave me a headache. But then again, it's rather late. :)
9.0 |
| #28 .Praetor[151274] |
| c-67-172-163-127.client.comcast.net |
Thanks for the kind comments. Chris and Decay in particular made me laugh and feel good.
To those who commented on the pictures, I know they weren't of the highest quality. However, I felt they were necessary for a Civ3 report. They provide a view of the terrain being fought over and the city locations that can't be efficiently described by words.
To anyone who noticed the last minimap - all will be revealed in the next installment (sigh, more pictures to edit). Actually, I just finished the next installment and saved the raw screenshots.
Thanks for the compliments on the writing. It's not perfect, because I would have to spend a few days forgetting the report and several more hours to hold myself to that standard and then still miss something. I still counted about 10 errors after posting and LuckyNewbie and mattzarella pointed out a few more on b.net when I stopped in tonight.
Compliments and thank yous to Johnny Vegas and Brad the sever guy, because I forgot to mention them in the report. And thanks for all the comments, they're why I write BRs. Keep 'em coming :). |
| #29 nrkizt[151275] |
| netblock-66-159-226-41.dslextreme.com |
Hey Prae,
Great report. Eagerly waiting for the rest. You've made me want to play Civ3 again. Great job with all the tactical insights - I've learnt a lot.
And yes, pictures are needed. Even the best writers on Earth will have problems describing a map in a way that's not boring. Please continue to include these in the next reports. They really do help. |
| #30 OverTheUnder[151276] |
| 12-216-178-164.client.mchsi.com |
| :O!! and i thought you wrote them for the glamour and the chicks:P |
| #31 hidden[151277] |
| proxy.skynet.be |
I ... Read... All ... Of ... It ... Eye's bleeding ... Must .. call ... 9 ... 11
*ghaaasp*
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*THUD* |
#32  [151278] |
| nr11-216-196-185-215.fuse.net |
Holy smokes a .Praetor report.
But it's a .Praetor report on Civilization 3! NOOOOOOO!!! Heh, I'm disgruntled about that because I detest Civ3, and because I have a Civ 2 report in the works and it's going to seem like I'm copying you, haha. Anyway.
The writing is fantastic, with a few errors (The biggest one was, "A newly produced Legion was produced") but nothing major. You still got style.
About the pictures. They were fine -- not good, but fine. They did what you wanted. If you DO want them to be gorgeous eye-candy, just let ZerG~LinG, me or Dialtone_ know. Or somebody else.
I'm going to give this a 9. Was it a perfect 10? I didn't feel so, but it was very very awesome. |
| #33
[151280] |
| 129.142.195.30.ip.tele2adsl.dk |
This is what I call a comeback - looooooooong and detailed. I liked the few screenshots btw - so much that I'd really like to see a few more so provide a break in the long slabs of text. They really do provide great value, especially in a game like this.
There's nothing like a good old case of world domination - can't wait for next installment.
Things I would love to see: Bigger font size, please :o And a slightly larger line height wouldn't hurt either. More pictures that show good overviews would also be nice.
Like eld, it didn't say 10! to me, but was a really great report that deserves above a 9. So thanks whoever gave it a 10 ^^ |
| #34 cal[151281] |
| dialup-4.226.147.117.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net |
| I enjoyed this report. It was well written and with good descriptions that made it intelligible to someone who's never played it. |
#35  [151282] |
| user-12l2ep3.cable.mindspring.com |
My favorite thing about this site is the surprise reports that you don't expect, that come out of nowhere. Civ3 is probably my favorite game. I have played far more Starcraft and it was definitely my favorite at the time, and favorite multi-player game of all time. Civ3 however has such rich strategy, and a great historical context.
I especially liked the writing in the early game. Late game my mind started getting a little buggy trying to follow the action, with all the units and city names and such. I would have appreciated some more images to help me follow what was going on. Also the images that you did take needed to be zoomed in, as I guess my old eyes have a hard time seeing the detail in a 1024x768 image whose width is reduced by 50%.
I think that if you had taken this same report, and gotten a little help from one of the gfx wizards here, it would have been a 10 easy.
But for now I say a 9, with eager anticipation for the next installment!! |
| #36 [151283] |
| user-12l2ep3.cable.mindspring.com |
| .Praetor I have aided you in your quest for more comments by making a front page news item for your report. |
| #37 maareek[151284] |
| mblt-aa086.gtcom.net |
| Holy Shit! The halo effect is in full swing now, not only have I given up my intentions of writing a civilization report, I have also given up on releasing a Starcraft report in the next few days. Why? Because I will be spending them reading this report ^^. I guess this means I won't be seeing you around on b.net for a while, huh? |
| #38 maareek[151285] |
| mblt-aa086.gtcom.net |
I think you're really gonna love this. I'm probably gonna add about 10 comments on this report asking questions about the game.
I own the original Civ (despite how much I love Starcraft, Civ 1 is the best game ever created for my money), and Civ:Call to Power (not made by Sid Meier but still has a good feel to me). I've been pondering getting Civ 3, and by the end of this report I'll probably be convinced to do so.
My question is, in the Civ games I've played before a trade of Alphabet for Bronze Working would be advantageous. Is it less so in Civ 3 or were you just concerned about giving any tech to the Persians? |
| #39 LameJoker[151287] |
| pool-68-236-153-52.alb.east.verizon.net |
| 38- I know you're asking Prea, but Im pretty sure the reason is that Bronze Working is the Prerequisite for Iron Working, which along with a source of Iron gives Persia access to the immortals of gg. |
| #40 [151289] |
| 129.142.195.30.ip.tele2adsl.dk |
| Civ 1, now that's a great game :D Monitors weree 640x480, colours were 256 and the gameplay was 100%. Fuck those were the days. |
| #41 BlueRibbon[151290] |
| 65.167.44.69 |
I started to play this game after reading this report (somehow it was on my computer when I purchased it). And I realized I would rather read a thousand Prae reports on this game than actually play it. It takes so long to accomplish anything!
Ingenious writing. Great feel, and fabulous descriptions. 10. |
| #42 [151299] |
| user-12l2ep3.cable.mindspring.com |
| Blue Ribbon you gotta give it a chance man! If I could only escape to an extra dimension where time stood still I'd play Civ 3 like a mad man! |
| #43 .Praetor[151305] |
| ACC2AF4B.ipt.aol.com |
Civ3 is actually pretty different from the previous two, as far as what units are pretty good, Maareek. For instance in Civ2 archers were the way to go. Now, they suck compared to swordsmen and horsemen. I didn't want to give the Persians any techs at that time, because if there was a third civ they had met and I hadn't, they would trade my techs away, and I could only deal with one rather than 2 civs.
Answer more later, gotta go. |
| #44 [151309] |
| 67.176.104.160 |
| Oh yeah, I meant to ask, what's this "delayed effect" with the great library? I'm familiar with civ2 a lot more than 3, is there a limit on how many free technologies you can get? |
| #45 Jakob der ludner[151311] |
| 24-205-53-4.gln-eres.charterpipeline.net |
| that was an awesome CivIII report. And GJ doing it in the awesomely competitive Deity. I enjoyed this report so much, it made me dig up my old CivIII CD and replay that China game I could never finish. Keep up the good work. |
| #46 .Praetor[151312] |
| c-67-172-163-127.client.comcast.net |
The Great Library gives free techs when two people you have contact with know a gech. However, it is rendered obsolete the turn after YOU discover Education. I think in civ 2, it's when anyone discovers education or something. Been awhile. So if you stay isolationist, you can gain a whole bunch of post-Education techs (as long as you get them the same turn as Education, since Great Library will be obsolete the next turn). That's the best I can explain it.
Thanks Maareek, thanks Johnny. I'll try to include a mix of zoomed-in and zoomed-out screenshots next time. I didn't really intend for you to read what every city is producing on the zoomed out ones, just show national borders :).
Thanks hidden. I don't know if you've read previous comment sections... but that made me laugh. Zerg~Ling, I may now draft you again to provide me with adequate font and line height tags.
Now that 5 people have rated the report (was fast, lots of new raters...), I feel fine mentioning I'd have briefly considered giving the report an 8 before hitting myself in the head and giving it a 9. |
| #47 Raider[151313] |
| pcp02066469pcs.11thav01.fl.comcast.net |
Sweet report Praetor. The lack of L33T pictures did not bother me at all; your writing more than compensated for that. I enjoyed reading this. 9
Now, let me say something else. SAKNSAJBSABJASVHAX XCABSDIUGAIPSBADB! I am about half way through making a Civ3 report that I meant to be the first civ3 report on this site. Now it will probably be on the same page as this one. GAWD DAMMIT!
hehe, great job man...just the timing! the timing! |
| #48 RexRox[151314] |
| cache4.syd.ops.aspac.uu.net |
Excellent BR .Praetor. I've started many games on Deity myself (got crushed by Persians early in half of 'em) but only won one of them (archipelago's are good). You've done better than me to survive on such a small island with Persians. The pictures don't matter I just don't like the white background, use some CSS maybe.
Anyway, GJ.
10 |
| #49 Tal[151315] |
| host217-43-27-180.range217-43.btcentralplus.com |
Great stuff, I don't think extra pictures were neccessary due to the small area being fought over; with the odd pic you included and your good writing I knew where everything was.
It's also interesting to hear you explaining the many little things you have to ''micromanage'' to do well at Civ3. I have only played the game at it's low levels (e.g chieftain/the rank above that), and am now interested in trying the higher levels of the game.
Post the next part soon please... |
| #50
[151316] |
| 129.142.195.30.ip.tele2adsl.dk |
Wrap report in
<div style="font-family: Arial, verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: 180%;">
report
</div>
Or any other font in replacement of arial / verdana. Alternatively, all this is explained in that css guide :D
Surprisingly many people were working on civ3 reports ^_^ I've dug out Civ2 and started gaming - man this is quality. I'll never get any work done, though. |
| #51 Decay[151327] |
| 66.44.173.8 |
| I can't find my Civ or Civ2 cds, and I have no money to buy civ3. *cries* |
| #52 [151344] |
| 68.79.174.39 |
| I am very tempted to bust out Civ 3 but I must resist as I have too much work to do, namely on the new br.com! |
| #53 Auz[151345] |
| 66.237.245.230.ptr.us.xo.net |
Yay a .Preator report. Thanks pre I am now trying to find a copy of civ3 to play.
-Auz |
| #54 maareek[151348] |
| mblt-aa061.gtcom.net |
Personally, I'd like it if you added "letter-spacing: 1;" to that CSS. It may just be spoiled from my latest writings but the letters were closer than I would like. Personally, I like the black on white it was a lot easier on my eyes for this report (which I don't think is as long as Tao of FFA so the length is nothing to bitch about for me).
Yeah .Praetor, having got a little farther I see what you're saying about giving that tech. And LameJoker, thanks for the response but I was asking about the trade giving alphabet for bronze working. I have never, ever traded Bronze working away in any Civ game regardless of who it is.
And as far as the pics, I kind of liked em better like they were. Fancier pics would have just called for fancier formatting to go with them. Though I am tempted to start pulling out parts of comment sections about .Praetor using pics, but I won't...I don't think.
About to continue reading it, I'm sure more questions will pop up. |
| #55 .Praetor[151356] |
| c-67-172-163-127.client.comcast.net |
Ok, you have all convinced me to experiment with more wacky HTML. I'm sure it won't be a complete and total disaster (remembers a certain bold tag).
Tal, if you want to try higher difficulties, I highly recommened going to civfanatics.com and reading the article on jumping from Monarch to Emperor level. It includes a whole bunch of stuff I learned the hard way. (Don't do Deity, it's just insane.)
Johnny, resist! Resist the dark side! Heck, I only have enough time for Civ3 because I'm still working part time. |
| #56 maareek[151357] |
| mblt-aa003.gtcom.net |
It's not that terribly hard .Praetor. I don't know though, that bold tag did kinda add a certain flair to your report. And the comments section thereof was absolutely hilarious :). I think I read too much.
Back to reading. |
| #57 [151358] |
| 68.79.174.39 |
| Haha, the awesome thing is that Civ 3 banner ads now appeared for me on this report. That's cool. |
| #58 maareek[151361] |
| mblt-aa003.gtcom.net |
Me too Johnny.
About barbarians, do they set up their own cities in civ 3? I noticed you speaking about a "barbarian encampment" but I was wondering whether it was captured our founded by the barbarians themselves.
I'm getting through this at ridiculously slow pace.
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| #59 Drintr[151362] |
| 018.234-93-216-nokia-dsl.dynamic.surewest.net |
| Wow! I don't read very many battlereports, especially battlereports similar in length to this report. But after I read the first paragraph of your report, I was hooked till the end. The writing was captivating; I especially liked reading about the different tactics and strategies you used throughout the game. My only complaint would be that the writing toward the end of the report seemed rushed compared to the writing at the report's beginning. Nevertheless, an excellent job! I await the sequels with anticipation. |
| #60 .Praetor[151363] |
| c-67-172-163-127.client.comcast.net |
Drintr, yeah, the writing at the end was a bit rushed. It seems hard to make a long war interesting (x legions next to y city, z legions lost taking it. six times...) when the end isn't really in doubt. So I was trying to hurry through it.
Maareek, barbs can't have cities like in Civ2. They set up little barb-specific camps (kind of like the opposite of a goody hut) in unexplored territory that send out the occasional 2-hp warrior, horseman (when someone discovers Horseback Riding), and galley (when someone discovers Map Making). On Deity, there's no bonus for fighting barbs. If you disperse a camp (because they might set up another one nearby or when the area reverts to fog of war), you get to loot 25 gold. The computer likes to hunt these camps, so they're not that much of a problem. But they'll sometimes send out 'massive uprisings' when people enter the middle ages, with camps generating stacks of like 25 horsemen or so.
Those can be a real pain, but barbs can't take or destroy cities and they disappear after sacking one. I think they should be able to destroy size 1 cities, but they'll only kill off population, take some gold, destroy buildings, or destroy what you're working on if they get through your defense. So if you have uprising problems, most players just use up their gold in diplomacy, and set up a sacrificial city to be reduced to an unimproved size 1. |
| #61 polgas[151364] |
| d154-20-117-92.bchsia.telus.net |
Playing on "Deity" alone should give this report a 10! Awesome br. Reading it is like reading history holding 2 pom-poms cheering for the Romans. I can imagine the frustration when your 2nd Persian War fell flat.
I don't think you need a lot of screenies as the civ game is just a map with little animation. I didn't get lost on the action at all. Oh, by the way, I only played Classic Civ and it's frustrating enough on King level. Now I have to find out what an Immortal looks like. Maybe a closeup pic or two of the main units in the next br will help. Cheers! |
| #62 d-man[151374] |
| ca07-ch01-bl01.va-ashburn0.sa.earthlink.net |
| After reading this report I wanted to play Civ3, but then I realized I got Civ2 Gold in a combo pack years ago. And now I can't find it. argh |
| #63 Dibbler[151397] |
| 194.151.4.99 |
| I saw .Praetor and I thought "good, one of his well-written text-onlies". But surprise: a Civilisation report no less. I spent years of my life playing CIV1. Your writing really drew me in and I can't wait for more. |
| #64 Convider[151402] |
| HSE-Toronto-ppp317335.sympatico.ca |
THat's fucking amazing.
9.7 |
| #65 Dibbler[151405] |
| 213-84-180-234.adsl.xs4all.nl |
| Oh, forgot to mention I have the board game as well. Takes about 8 hours to play one game. |
| #66 Poor_lil_Newb[151409] |
| h64-141-27-82.sunwave.net |
| I'm in 2178 A.D. and the cold war between communist russia and democratic greece is picking up. I control the sea and every island and north/south america, but they have asia europe and africa(playing on the world map). Soon we will unleash our 30 ICBM/Tactical Nuke each arsenals and blow up the world =/. |
| #67 OMGZERGRUSH[151411] |
| h64-141-27-82.sunwave.net |
Praetor do you have AIM?
I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on CIV3, since I'm just getting into it. I play Russians.. eeee |
| #68 I_am_Nitros[151412] |
| h64-141-27-82.sunwave.net |
| And P.S.(gayly posting with all my names now keke), I liked the civ2 combat system with 10/20/30/40 hit points better than this more luck oriented one with 2/3/4/5. |
| #69 .Praetor[151414] |
| c-67-172-163-127.client.comcast.net |
I hated the Civ2 HP system, since I never knew what units had how many. You'd think a phalanx would be a good defensive unit... but no, you'd be wrong. Grrr...
Anyhoo, AIM is Praetor Fred |
| #70 kane[151415] |
| c-67-170-196-151.client.comcast.net |
| it listed hit points and firepower right next to the att/def/move stats in civ2 ;[ |
| #71 cORP[151416] |
| dhcp-183-215-161-205.cf-res.cfu.net |
| yes this makes me want to play again. great game great report. ty |
| #72 happy joy[151420] |
| 216-86-116-139.gen.pacificcoast.net |
heh praetor.. i'm so different with you. I'm an old school Civ2 HP Fanboy. And since when aren't phalanx good defensive units?
Oh well. It just seems a lot more random to me, and that isn't a good thing. Also, there is the legendary spearman>tank problems.
But then again, whatever floats your boat. |
| #73 Dialtone[151422] |
| athei53-c-229.otenet.gr |
I prefer to play the russians on a pangea type large map personaly, cossacs absolutely rule the middle ages until your opponents get the first salpenter based defenders, and even then they're a force to be reconed with, plus you can hold multiple fronts with their speed and defense.
As for the report, i really liked the strategic insights into the battle plans, taking your time to plan attacks is half the fun in the game. More screenshots with arrows pointing important cities and movement of armies would have helped hugely for people that dont know much about the game imo.
Civ is a time black hole. |
| #74 Poor_lil_Newb[151482] |
| h64-141-27-82.sunwave.net |
| Non gun armed units had 10, gun armed units had 20. Metal Ships/Tanks and Mech Infantry had 30, Aircraft Carriers and Battleships had 40. |
| #75 OMGZERGRUSH[151485] |
| h64-141-27-82.sunwave.net |
| Nevermind the spearman >> tank problems.. the good old Man'O'War > Submarine is a gem. Not entirely sure how a Man'O'War ATTACKS a submarine.. but eh. |
| #76 .Praetor[151545] |
| c-67-172-163-127.client.comcast.net |
| Heh. Perhaps I didn't patch my old, gimp version of Civ2. But my phalanxes all had 10 hp, while my archers and legions had 20. And I had to dig in the civlopedia for that kind of info. It was teh suck, as all these kids say today. |
| #77 maareek[151591] |
| mblt-ac027.gtcom.net |
| I've only made it about halfway reading sporadically. I promise that I'll be adding some more comment on here soon. Never fear, I'll do my best to fill your comment needs. |
| #78 I_am_Nitros[151594] |
| h64-141-27-82.sunwave.net |
| Allthough aside from their gay ability to kill submarines, Man'O'Wars have to be the worst special unit in the game. They're obsolete one tech after they become available and they suck =/. |
| #79 .Praetor[151600] |
| c-67-172-163-127.client.comcast.net |
| It's a close race with the F-15 to be sure. Man'O'Wars at least come about at a good point to have a golden age. Other notable stinkers would be Musketeers (bonus on attack for a defensive unit) or the War Elephant (takes a resource shortage to be useful). |
| #80 Simply_Eugene[151636] |
| pool-138-88-138-191.esr.east.verizon.net |
| Awesome =) |
| #81 Undecided[151646] |
| adsl-68-94-95-2.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net |
So... Freaking... GOOD
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| #82 I_am_Nitros[151674] |
| h64-141-27-82.sunwave.net |
| But Musketeers/F-15's and War Elephants don't become obsolete ONE TECH AFTER BECOMING AVAILABLE -_- |
| #83 Poor_lil_Newb[151675] |
| h64-141-27-82.sunwave.net |
| I mean, if you and a scientific nation research them at the same time THEY INSTANTLY GET IRONCLADS. GAYEST THING EVER. |
| #84 OMGZERGRUSH[151676] |
| h64-141-27-82.sunwave.net |
(More gay triple posting ?:[)
I've always found it very gay how India can't be cut off from horses and iron and lose their main offensive force early medieval age. The War Elephant is definately a better asset than the Man'O'War.
I'd say the order of worst units goes:(worst to horrible)
Man'O'War
F-15
That mongol horse archer thingy(expansion set only)
Musketeer
H'wacha(Expansion set only)
Jaguar Warriors
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| #85 .Praetor[151696] |
| c-67-172-163-127.client.comcast.net |
| I like jaguar warriors. It's a pain, but you can conquer like 6 cities before Iron Working if you really pump them out. I remember one capitol on hills behind a river with 4 spearmen... took like 20 J warriors :). |
| #86 I_am_Nitros[151756] |
| h64-141-27-82.sunwave.net |
| Eh, I still find the Jaguar warriors to be pretty useless, if they build a few more spearmen and hold on you're in trouble. Or if they're greece/carthage then your warriors can get screwed over. |
| #87 OMGZERGRUSH[151797] |
| h64-141-27-82.sunwave.net |
| By the way, I only have the first expansion pack, could anyone give a brief overview of the new unique units in Conquests? |
| #88 013[151824] |
| 12-202-233-161.client.insightBB.com |
| Wow, this was great. God I love this game. I just finished a game of Civ II yesterday (which I think is better in a lot of ways) and this makes me want to play another which is always the sign of a good report in my book. |
| #89 Raider[151864] |
| pcp02066469pcs.11thav01.fl.comcast.net |
| About the unique units you guys are describing, you are playing pre-conquests it looks like. In Conquests, Ironclads are a non-required seperate tech, which almost never gets reserach, so Frigates and Man-O-War stay useful much longer (plus in Conquests they are MUCH faster than Ironclads, 5 to 3 movement points). Musketeers are now 2.5.1 and have defensive bombard of 2. And War Elephants now have an extra HP, which is a pretty big deal imo. |
| #90 I_am_Nitros[151893] |
| h64-141-27-82.sunwave.net |
| Wow they actually balanced the game? :O |
| #91 Raider[151902] |
| pcp02066469pcs.11thav01.fl.comcast.net |
| Yeah, Conquests actually did a great job at making the game better and more fun to play. Definitely more balanced in terms of UUs. Worth buying imo, unlike Play the World. |
| #92 I_am_Nitros[151906] |
| h64-141-27-82.sunwave.net |
| Play the world made submarines better.. eeeee |
| #93 [151913] |
| user-12l2ep3.cable.mindspring.com |
Yeah I bought conquests instead of play the world, as I heard conquests gives you everything play the world does, but more.
Interesting to hear about the play balances, I didn't realize they adjusted the stats of the unique units. Man if I was in high school again I'd play the hell out of this game.
Civ 3 team has been great about balancing. Can't wait to reinstall it, and download the latest patch and rekindle the Civ 3 flame.
(Jesus what am I saying? NOOO!!) |
| #94 I_am_Nitros[151914] |
| h64-141-27-82.sunwave.net |
| Well unlucky me I bought play the world when it came out, and now have no money for conquests =/. But heck it's still damn fun. |
| #95 Poor_lil_Newb[151961] |
| h64-141-27-82.sunwave.net |
| The computer is so hilarious. I get one of them to sign a military alliance against this tiny little nation and they nuke it silly. So the rest of the computers declare war on the computer using the nukes and nuke them and they all declare war on eachother for using nukes so now the whole world is a free for all with nukes flying every which way while I look on and reap the benefits of peace. |
| #96 [151988] |
| 67.176.104.160 |
With the help of PLN/Nitros using two comments each time, we're sure to reach 100.
Why do I have this urge to buy conquests. WHY! |
| #97 I_am_Nitros[151990] |
| h64-141-27-82.sunwave.net |
| I'm a comment whore, what can I say? |
#98  [152005] |
| 12-202-233-161.client.insightBB.com |
| i love it, unfotunately, i can't rate it... but i carry a 10 for you in my heart. |
| #99 .Praetor[152017] |
| c-67-172-163-127.client.comcast.net |
| Heh. Thanks Drefsab. FYI all, the second part is halfway done, and I just started it today. |
| #100 maareek[152025] |
| mblt-aa066.gtcom.net |
| Bah, the second part will be done before I finish the first one. Oh well. Damn you work quick...but then so do I when I get down to it. |
| #101 I_am_Nitros[152032] |
| h64-141-27-82.sunwave.net |
| If there's not tons of naval combat I will be very dissapointed Preator =[. |
| #102 Raider[152038] |
| pcp02066469pcs.11thav01.fl.comcast.net |
It looks like I started a Conquests surge ;)
Btw, which version are you playing, Praetor? I assume pre-conquests because of your comments above? |
| #103 .Praetor[152042] |
| c-67-172-163-127.client.comcast.net |
| Vanilla, latest patch. |
| #104 endersshadow[152277] |
| ool-182d2f86.dyn.optonline.net |
| Teach history or english at my school please. You've shown from a freaking *battlereport* that you're more qualified than half the people we're currently paying. |
| #105 maareek[153559] |
| 150.176.83.30 |
| Personally, I like the H'wacha. But then I really like all forms of artillery :). A little later Golden Age, but Koreans ARE commercial and scientific after all. |
| #106 Bismarks Follower[167054] |
| cpe-68-206-44-156.gt.res.rr.com |
| .Praetor, Your island looks like the British home island. To clear it up, the island with London on it. Not Ireland. |
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