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#1 Dev (reshall-137-232.oit.edu)[4937]
Here you go, guys. Sorry I posted that so late. Let me know if I forgot anything important.
#2 [FLS]prozerran (HRN0967.RESNET-STUDENT.UPENN.EDU)[4940]
HaeHaeHEa. Once you've mentioned factory, I knew Whoop's gonna nuke rush. His academy is on time, as whoop had practiced his nuke rush too much. =]

WhOoPsTeR is nuts! :D

#3 Fractal_Wave (proxy4.gvcl1.bc.home.com)[4945]
Dev, you've got talent. Reading that report was more exciting that playing. And there should be a law against 3/3 marines. there really should
;)
Any one have any ideas on how to stop the turbo-newbie tank drop?? It's kill me waaaayyy too much...

And that was the weirdest set of opening builds i've ever seen. I messed around with my usual "hyper-hydra" build, and whoop...well, what can I say...a nuke rush???

Xcellent, Xcellent report.

All the best,
Fractal_Wave
wishes he could win a game...









#4 Whoop (pool0367.cvx12-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net)[4950]
Wow good report. I know you dont like to make commentary on tactics, but he coulda really hurt me with those drops if he woulda mixed in some lurkers and cracklings. The lurkers woulda prevented me from charging my m&m in while the crax tore through my base. (Those suckers kill shit quick)

Also my academy was exactly when I wanted it.

My force of 2 tanks and 12 marines was poorly managed but in truth was only a distraction for my ghost. Apparently there was an OL over the cliff which gave vision to them lurkers. Shoulda sent my scivessel in for recon first. O well.

Anyways great report.





#5 Johnny_Vegas (gza.ahnet.net)[4951]
Man, that as fun to read. I like the comment about the marine with the pup tent and a deck of cards. haha! I'm giving this a 9, cause its as well written as you can get.
#6 Necrosausage! (WIENPROXY.highway.telekom.at)[4967]
Incredible report. Just get webspace so u can fit the pics in between and it will be perfect (If u want u can also dump some files in my geocities account but u can as well make one urself)

BTW: one the last pic, the red balls look like morphing DAs :)

BTW: U mentioned "army of darkness" - anybody know that great movie? (pretty old but pretty funny)



#7 Mark4 (strangers.bragg.army.mil)[4975]
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun."

I love this. Half the visible reports from the main page are gold, and deservedly so.

#8 sydane (cr39512-a.rchmd1.bc.wave.home.com)[4978]
Good report.
Whoops always win. I hate u.
NUKE RUSH!!

#9 [IceBerG] (ip-205-40.phx.fr.dancris.com)[4981]
TeRRanfLaVoR<---------------------OWNS! (Inside joke)

Hehe.. man, wish I could watched that one... NICE! hehe.. Awesome report man, like Vegas said, the deck of cards and pup tent... ROFL!

#10 PeonRapist (209-30-245-180.flash.net)[5004]
Whew... that was some good reading! Great job man!
#11 YourRoleModel (30.np6.np.dialup.nauticom.net)[5022]
Hey Dev,

I love the way you write. My writing skills are acceptable when I concentrate on staying in the same action tense and get into a groove. After seeing posts on BattleNet Forums, sometimes I think I am Timothy Zahn or something...

...but... I would love to work with you on that FFA idea. Graphics are my specialty anyway.

I am out of town this weekend to attend the wedding of my wife's friend... Heartcutter is game, but he too is busy this weekend. Maybe in two weeks?

We'd have to make sure we could get two observers on the same map, while still having a variety. I am all for not even including Lost Temple. A good representative from each race would play that race... Heartcutter as Terran, ProZerg or Mark4 as Protoss, Whoop or Schizo as zerg? Step up to the plate if I didn't mention someone good...

Another reason that this FFA would be a good series is that... even with allying banned, the winner of game one is going to have a big target on him for game two. Game three should come down to the person without a win against one of the winners, and I think that it's likely the champion would be determined here. Game four would happen if all three players had a win, and should be just like game one. Varying maps should compensate for certain race's advantages... We could watch a game, compare notes afterwards, and start working... you on the writing, and me on the pics (with input into both).

The battle reports could come as a trilogy, with the players and reporters holding the results secret until the report is released... I'll even crank out some .gif animations or custom illustrations if needed.

This is getting long winded, so maybe I'll make a "non-battle report" outlining the whole idea to get responses in one place...

What do you think Dev? I'll look here tomorrow at work.
#12 Fractal_Wave (proxy4.gvcl1.bc.home.com)[5024]
YRM, that is a brilliant idea, and i will hunt both you & Dev down & kill you if you don't do it.
;)

& Whoop, you're right on about mixing in some lurkas & 'lings in those drops...
Mass Hydras get taken to school by mass Marines.
#13 Dev (reshall-137-232.oit.edu)[5025]
YRM: Excellent. I couldn't do it this weekend, but next should be fine.

I'm all for this idea. Points I like:

- Keeping the results secret
- Making it an FFA
- Excluding Lost Temple

Also, with a Free-for-All game it would be great to have two pairs of eyes watching it, so we don't miss anything.

As to commenting on who gets to play, I'm not familiar with ProZerg, but I think Heartcutter's terran is a smart move. The only times I've seen Whoop play is as non-zerg, but I heard Schizo has a good zerg game.

So all in all, let's do it. Sounds great. Plus, I don't want Fractal to hunt me down and kill me.
#14 Whoop (pool0119.cvx10-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net)[5032]
Better get Schizo my zerg sucks especially in a FFA. Thanks for thinkin of me and mentioning my name with such good players though :) I look foward to your report
#15 -=Elminster=- (216.132.37.250)[5037]
ehehehehheee whoop the nuke rusher, hehehehehee. I withdraw my comment, i guess it does work ocassionaly, hehehee but oh well i sux dont listen to me im sux
#16 Mark4 (strangers.bragg.army.mil)[5040]
I'm not really the best protoss you guys could come up with am I? I'm just an average player with a few timing tricks... And FFAs are a losing proposition for me. Not that I wont play if asked.
#17 Mark4 (1Cust175.tnt28.tco2.da.uu.net)[5049]
BTW, Dev is the third highest user of this site with over 2000 hits. =]
#18 Dev (reshall-137-232.oit.edu)[5054]
Yay. I need a day job.
#19 YourRoleModel (relay.atinc.com)[5056]
To Mark4,

The point of the FFA tournement isn't to get the BEST zerg, terran, and protoss players... someone is always better, and I don't feel like looking up Zileas, Crexis, and Agent (and even these can be debated).

I am thinking of "BigNames" among the people who frequent NoHunters, the forums, or this site. That player has to be looked at as somewhat of a specialist in his chosen race.

Heartcutter may not be the best Terran Player ever, or he might be... but people regard him as a feared Terran opponent.

Mark4... may only know micro and macro and dancing with a few "timing tricks", but since you have noted posts of wins with Protoss... including Heartcutter, you seem like a good choice for Protoss to me. If there's someone out there chomping at the bit saying, "Mark4 sucks, I'm better with Toss." ...and it's true... Cool Beans, but for this tourney, a documented Protoss player like Mark4 is perfect.

Zerg? Who's out there? I haven't played everybody? And how do you tell who did a better job of beating you anyway? Ashcar? I know he's feared with Terran and Zerg. One of the Pkt7 gang? Schizo? Who feels real comfortable with zerg out there?

I think the FFA tourney would be interesting, and no one would lose credibility by losing anyway, because certain aspects of FFA are out of player control. Dev and I would do our best to write and provide graphics, making the battles as exciting as possible. There are alot of aspects of the battles that would be interesting:

Playing styles
Race strengths and weaknesses
Map benefits
Who gets attacked first or hardest
Late game 1-1 between 2 respected players

We are almost guaranteed to see the top units and tricks in action somewhere. As you can tell, I'm excited about the idea, and if I was good enough or race specialized, I'd play it myself... =)
#20 JSH (pmroch3-23.rconnect.com)[5057]
We should have a newbie killer tournament too so I can get involved.

Just joking. :)
#21 Mark4 (strangers.bragg.army.mil)[5066]
Hey JSH, I think that newbie tourney is a good idea. I bet I can find a few newbies for you to kill. There was this one guy, can't remember his name right now, but he beat ghost and kept saying he was a newbie. BettrThanMe or something?

YRM, I did say I'd play...so has heart.
#22 YourRoleModel (relay.atinc.com)[5080]
Cool deal. I thought you might, but you seemed modest about it and all... I know that there are always better players, but you have mad skillz. (IMHO)

So until Starship Troopers provides you with more quotes, heh... We have our Terran and Protoss contestants. Any zerg suggestions? Takers? There has to be someone proud of their lurker rush... they must have some end game skills too right?
#23 Mark4 (strangers.bragg.army.mil)[5084]
I think schizo would be perfect. Every contest needs a villain to root against.
#24 Johnny_Vegas (fink.ahnet.net)[5086]
Yeah, I was trying to get Schizo to be my teammate in a 2v2 the other night but he didn't answer.

Heheh. Schizo and Vegas super team! =] I like anarchy sometimes.
#25 TwistedNecro[150417]
lsanca1-ar54-4-3-202-139.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net
lol Love this report Dev, very nice. I liked the writing.

LOL Nuke rush, I love it. Gotta try that sometime. =D



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